Comments on: The A-Bomb and the Japanese Surrender in World War II http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/ Life is a blog. I wanna write it. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:21:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Salvia Divinorumhttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-59746 Salvia Divinorum Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:25:40 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-59746 I think that just goes to show how sensitive this topic remains in Japan, 60 years later. It is interesting how completely the atomic weapons have purged the Japanese soul of belligerence. The Japanese were quite militaristic, historically, prior to their defeat in WWII. I don't know if their current pacifist attitude is permanent. Perhaps so, as long as American warships protect Japan. I think that just goes to show how sensitive this topic remains in Japan, 60 years later. It is interesting how completely the atomic weapons have purged the Japanese soul of belligerence. The Japanese were quite militaristic, historically, prior to their defeat in WWII. I don’t know if their current pacifist attitude is permanent. Perhaps so, as long as American warships protect Japan.

]]> By: Ronaldhttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57456 Ronald Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:06:48 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57456 You're ignoring historical facts. Such as the ship that delivered the bomb to Tinian and was later sunk returning home.There's also video footage from the Enola Gay as the bomb was dropped.Not to mention the thousands of Japanese who died from Gamma radiation after the blast. This comes from nuclear fallout, and is potent for several days after the blast.And Japan's aerial defenses weren't all that great. Their airforce and navy was practically non-existent, and most of their anti-aircraft was destroyed by bombing. You’re ignoring historical facts. Such as the ship that delivered the bomb to Tinian and was later sunk returning home.

There’s also video footage from the Enola Gay as the bomb was dropped.

Not to mention the thousands of Japanese who died from Gamma radiation after the blast. This comes from nuclear fallout, and is potent for several days after the blast.

And Japan’s aerial defenses weren’t all that great. Their airforce and navy was practically non-existent, and most of their anti-aircraft was destroyed by bombing.

]]> By: Jin Sunghttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57455 Jin Sung Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:48:00 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57455 B-29 day bombing were so unsuccessful US Air force switch to night bombingJaps has adequate means of defending their air in day lightThree B-29 never had chance even approach to hiroshima in day lightI think that hiroshima was fire bombed like toyko since there were no difference in after shot B-29 day bombing were so unsuccessful
US Air force switch to night bombing

Japs has adequate means of defending their air in day light

Three B-29 never had chance even approach to hiroshima in day light

I think that hiroshima was fire bombed like toyko since there were no difference in after shot

]]> By: Ronaldhttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57454 Ronald Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:37:23 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57454 The B-29s were flying from Saipan. If they did need to refuel, they could do so on Iwo Jima.Tokyo consisted of a lot of wooden structures. Fire bombing nearly wiped the city off the map. The fire bombings also killed more civilians than both atomic bombs combined.The Enola Gay flew from Tinian Island, also well within range of Hiroshima. The B-29s were flying from Saipan. If they did need to refuel, they could do so on Iwo Jima.

Tokyo consisted of a lot of wooden structures. Fire bombing nearly wiped the city off the map. The fire bombings also killed more civilians than both atomic bombs combined.

The Enola Gay flew from Tinian Island, also well within range of Hiroshima.

]]> By: Jin Sunghttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57453 Jin Sung Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:31:05 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57453 1. japs defense were so fearsome B-29 can't day bomb 2. steel concrete dome building 300 meter away I think that they made museum out of it 3.so actual devastation is due to fire of wooden buildingthen what is advantage of neuclear bomb it is just same as fire bomb4. how come we have sunshine are you under estimating of fusion energyThere were tree every whereIf american knows the effect of hiroshima then how come they expose their soldiers to the neclear blast 1. japs defense were so fearsome B-29 can’t day bomb
2. steel concrete dome building 300 meter away
I think that they made museum out of it
3.so actual devastation is due to fire of wooden building

then what is advantage of neuclear bomb
it is just same as fire bomb

4. how come we have sunshine
are you under estimating of fusion energy

There were tree every where

If american knows the effect of hiroshima then how come they expose their soldiers to the neclear blast

]]> By: Tom Hargravehttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57452 Tom Hargrave Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:43:22 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57452 To answer your questions:1) The flight to Hiroshima and back were right at the bomber's maximum limit. 2) What was that building made of? 3) Fire follows any nuclear blast because of the intense heat. 4) The Sun's own gravity keeps it from exploding. To answer your questions:

1) The flight to Hiroshima and back were right at the bomber’s maximum limit.
2) What was that building made of?
3) Fire follows any nuclear blast because of the intense heat.
4) The Sun’s own gravity keeps it from exploding.

]]> By: Jin Sunghttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57451 Jin Sung Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:43:53 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57451 How could 3 B-29 even approach to Hiroshima At that time no day light bombing were possible by B-29How could Building standing 300 meter awayHow could the after bomb shot are very similar toyko fire bomb after shotIf fusion is chain reaction then how could the sun is not exploding How could 3 B-29 even approach to Hiroshima
At that time no day light bombing were possible by B-29

How could Building standing 300 meter away

How could the after bomb shot are very similar toyko fire bomb after shot

If fusion is chain reaction then how could the sun is not exploding

]]> By: Lance Kilpatrickhttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57039 Lance Kilpatrick Fri, 01 May 2009 23:03:04 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-57039 Good points from all who have given them. I am by no means an expert on war or politics but as a scholar of both topics I would like to point out that no one here mentions what the effect that the Soviet declaration of war on Japan would have on any kind of surrender given by Japan. If you remember the Japanese beat the Russians in the Russo-Japanese war during the early years of the Twentieth century. This may seem contridictory but the Russian forces that fought the Japanese in 1904 and 1905 were considerably weaker than the Soviet forces of the 1940's. Another point to bring up is that Germany had surrendered just days before the Soviets declared war on Japan, meaning that not only would Japan be fighting the US, and British forces but also the Soviets. I cant really say that the bombs were the main reason for surrender or not but I think everything needs to be considered. Good points from all who have given them. I am by no means an expert on war or politics but as a scholar of both topics I would like to point out that no one here mentions what the effect that the Soviet declaration of war on Japan would have on any kind of surrender given by Japan. If you remember the Japanese beat the Russians in the Russo-Japanese war during the early years of the Twentieth century. This may seem contridictory but the Russian forces that fought the Japanese in 1904 and 1905 were considerably weaker than the Soviet forces of the 1940′s. Another point to bring up is that Germany had surrendered just days before the Soviets declared war on Japan, meaning that not only would Japan be fighting the US, and British forces but also the Soviets. I cant really say that the bombs were the main reason for surrender or not but I think everything needs to be considered.

]]> By: Tom Hargravehttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-54734 Tom Hargrave Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:36:05 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-54734 Conventional and firebombs were used on Germany, were used on Japan and were used by Germany on Britian. In none of these cases did the bombs cause the recipients to surrender. The bombs crippled Germany's ability to retool & rearm and even then, it was a fight all the way to Hitler's bunker.I would expect no less from Japan but with one fundamental difference. Their culture would have led them to fight harder and until every man, woman and child was dead. This is exactly what happened with most battles leading up to the bombing. I believe that the atomic bombs were decisive in the surrender of Japan. Conventional and firebombs were used on Germany, were used on Japan and were used by Germany on Britian. In none of these cases did the bombs cause the recipients to surrender. The bombs crippled Germany’s ability to retool & rearm and even then, it was a fight all the way to Hitler’s bunker.

I would expect no less from Japan but with one fundamental difference. Their culture would have led them to fight harder and until every man, woman and child was dead. This is exactly what happened with most battles leading up to the bombing. I believe that the atomic bombs were decisive in the surrender of Japan.

]]> By: cetroyerhttp://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-7564 cetroyer Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:03:03 +0000 http://www.ronalfy.com/2007/07/03/the-a-bomb-and-the-japanese-surrender-in-world-war-ii/#comment-7564 Good point on the napalm. Also good point on the Japanese not knowing what hit them. That actually reinforces my point: what is more terrifying, knowing what you are being attacked with or not knowing?I am curious why you think that the Japanese would have surrendered even if the bombs had been dropped? I just want the reasoning behind your position. :)After visiting the WWI and WWII museum in Paris (the one next to Napoleon's Tomb), I have to disagree with your statement that "Japanese were clearly beaten (from America’s point of view)". Even up to the very end, the battles for the various islands were vicious, fight-to-the-last man battles. I doubt many Americans thought invading Japan would be any different. Now, if you meant that the Japanese were clearly beaten because their Navy was destroyed and they only had Japan left, but would still put up a fight there, then I agree with you. :)cetroyer Good point on the napalm. Also good point on the Japanese not knowing what hit them. That actually reinforces my point: what is more terrifying, knowing what you are being attacked with or not knowing?

I am curious why you think that the Japanese would have surrendered even if the bombs had been dropped? I just want the reasoning behind your position. :)

After visiting the WWI and WWII museum in Paris (the one next to Napoleon’s Tomb), I have to disagree with your statement that “Japanese were clearly beaten (from America’s point of view)”. Even up to the very end, the battles for the various islands were vicious, fight-to-the-last man battles. I doubt many Americans thought invading Japan would be any different. Now, if you meant that the Japanese were clearly beaten because their Navy was destroyed and they only had Japan left, but would still put up a fight there, then I agree with you. :)

cetroyer

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